r/Fire • • 18h ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Monday, October 26, 2026

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This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

All of the sub rules apply in this thread as normal with the exception of the off-topic rule, which is relaxed to the extent that people don't go wildly off of the reservation.

We are putting this up as a trial to see if it is worth keeping this as a permanent feature of the sub. Participation is entirely voluntary and anyone who wants to create a separate post of their own rather than posting in here is free to do so.


r/Fire • • 16h ago

Weekly ACA 2027 Open Enrollment FAQ/Megathread (Week 3) - Please feel free to ask all questions, share your experiences/results/resources, and discuss the ACA in general. ACA posting outside of this thread is also fine.

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It's that joyous time of the year once again, boys and girls, when those of us using the ACA get to figure out our health insurance for the new year! The Idahoans, Nutmeggers, and Bay Staters already got to see what Santa has in store for their health insurance next year, but the rest of us get to join in this week too. Open enrollment officially starts in most states on Sunday (November 1st) and 2027 prices and policy options should be previewable soon. Historically the preview period typically starts between October 25th and October 27th, but any time right up until the end of the month is possible.

This Megathread is a communal resource for all things ACA during the 2027 open enrollment period. Please feel free to ask all questions, share your experiences, discuss the ACA in general, ask for help with pricing or MAGI optimization, and everything else ACA-related. However, everyone is also free to make their own posts if they prefer, so please do not tell people that they must come here to discuss the ACA. If anyone has a suggestion for something to add to the post or edits/corrections, then absolutely feel free to share publicly or via DM/modmail.

Please remember that there are state variations, information is subject to change, and you should independently verify any information upon which you are going to make any meaningful decisions. I am purely an experienced amateur and do not offer any fiduciary duty or legal expertise.

TERMS

Terms for those that are unfamiliar:

  • MAGI - Modified Adjusted Gross Income, a particular version of adjusted gross income used by the ACA.
  • APTC - Advanced Premium Tax Credit, an advanceable and fully refundable federal income tax credit that reduces ACA premiums, known by most simply as ACA subsidies.
  • EPC - Expected Premium Contribution, the amount customers are expected to pay annually for the Silver benchmark ACA plan in their market. APTCs are calculated as the market price of the benchmark plan minus EPC.
  • FPL - Federal Poverty Level, a measure used by the federal government as a determinant in many policy systems.
  • MaxOOP - Maximum Out of Pocket, the most a customer can be asked to pay in out of pocket expenses for in-network covered benefits by an insurer in a given year. This includes deductibles, copays, and coinsurance, but excludes premiums.
  • CSR - Cost Sharing Reductions, the second subsidy system within the ACA that reduces out of pocket expenses like deductibles, copays/coinsurance, and MaxOOP.
  • AI/AN - American Indian / Alaskan Native
  • AV - Actuarial Value, the percentage of total average costs for covered medical benefits that a health insurance plan is expected to cover for a standard population. For example, if a plan has an 80% AV, the insurer pays 80% of average expenses, and customers pay 20% through deductibles, copays, and coinsurance.

FAQ


Q: What are the dates for open enrollment this year?

A: Most states will have open enrollment between November 1st and January 15th, with December 15th as the last day to enroll in order to have coverage active starting on January 1st. Enrollments after that date will have coverage active starting on February 1st. States that differ from the default dates are listed below. Please note that dates are subject to change.

Pro-tip - Apply early! You can change your plan selection before the enrollment deadline if you change your mind.

State 2027 Open Enrollment Enroll for 1/1/27 Coverage Enroll for 2/1/27 Coverage
California 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/31/26 1/31/27
Connecticut 10/23/26 – 1/15/27 12/15/26 1/15/27
District of Columbia 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/15/26 1/31/27
Idaho 10/15/26 – 12/15/26 12/15/26 N/A
Maryland 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/31/26 1/15/27
Massachusetts 10/23/26 – 1/23/27 12/23/26 1/23/27
Nevada 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/31/26 1/15/27
New Jersey 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/31/26 1/31/27
New Mexico 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/31/26 1/15/27
New York 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/15/26 1/31/27
Oregon 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/15/26 1/15/27
Rhode Island 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/31/26 1/31/27
Vermont 11/1/26 – 12/28/26 12/15/26 12/28/26
Virginia 11/1/26 – 1/29/27 12/15/26 1/29/27
Washington 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/15/26 1/15/27

Q: What are the qualifying income limits for ACA subsidies?

A: MAGI between 100% FPL and 400% FPL in states that did not expand Medicaid and MAGI between 138% FPL and 400% FPL in most states that did expand Medicaid. Note that MAGI between 100% FPL and 138% FPL in expansion Medicaid states is still qualifying for ACA subsidies, but only if you have been denied for Medicaid. Some state variations do exist due to localized Medicaid rules and things like Basic Health Plans, so be sure to validate the relevant income limits in your state.


Q: What is MAGI?

A: Modified Adjusted Gross Income. ACA MAGI is your 1040 AGI (line 11) plus a few untaxed/excluded income sources (untaxed SS benefits excluding SSI [1040 line 6a minus line 6b], untaxed foreign excluded income and housing benefits [Form 2555], and tax-exempt interest [1040 line 2a]).

Details can be found here - https://www.healthcare.gov/income-and-household-information/income/


Q: Can I do anything to change my MAGI?

A: The rules are pretty simple in terms of MAGI control, but the mix of cashflows is always unique for each household's particular circumstances.

  • Roth conversions generate MAGI without withdrawal/spending.

  • TIRA withdrawals generate MAGI and provide cash for spending.

  • Roth contribution basis, matured Roth conversion basis, HSA, margin/credit, and cash equivalents provide withdrawal/spending without generating MAGI.

  • Taxable sales generate MAGI only via cap gains and can be a nice source of non-MAGI funds depending on one's cost basis. Sell $100K in stock with $40K cost basis and you have $100K to spend and $60K in MAGI.

  • HSA contributions do not require earned income and reduce MAGI.

  • Tax-loss harvesting can be used to create a capital loss deduction of $3K/year.

Mix and match retirement cashflows to get whatever combo of MAGI and spending you want.

Anyone in here with a good mix of assets can use cashflows from various assets to generate a wide array of MAGI and spending combinations. For example, if you sell $150K in stock with an $80K cost basis, then you get $150K in spending cashflow and $70K in MAGI. Pull $50K a year in untaxed Roth withdrawals and you get $50K in spending cashflow and $0K in MAGI. FIRE folks are notorious for our aggressive use of tax optimization techniques, so our ability to separate MAGI and spending in retirement is generally pretty good.

For those using the ACA while working, TIRA and T401k contributions reduce MAGI. For those without earned income, HSA contributions reduce MAGI.

There are several other ways to reduce AGI depending on one's unique asset setup. That includes the cap loss deduction for people with harvestable losses, but also things like maintenance for those with rentals or deductible expenses (including health insurance premiums) and tax-advantaged contributions for those with self-employment residuals/income. Anything that reduces 1040 AGI also reduces ACA MAGI.


Q: Our MAGI is just slightly over the master cliff at 400% FPL. Is there anything we can do to regain subsidy eligibility?

A: If an HSA is not already in use, then using one can effectively extend the master cliff to between ~430% to ~450% FPL. HSA contributions reduce MAGI and do not require earned income, meaning retired households can still make them. The actual HSA contribution limits end up being equivalent to somewhere between 30% and 50% of FPL for single/couple households, depending on age.

The below example uses real numbers for 2026 national average premiums and subsidy calcs for illustration purposes. True numbers for a specific household will vary by location, household demographics, and MAGI.

If a 55-year-old couple currently has MAGI of $90K (~426% FPL), then they are ineligible for premium subsidies. If they want a Bronze policy, then they have two options.

Option 1: Pay full market price for a Bronze policy. For 2026 the national average for least expensive Bronze policy is $19K.

Option 2: Commit to contributing $8K to the HSA that any Bronze policy makes them eligible for, which allows them to reduce their MAGI estimate to $82K (388% FPL). This restores their subsidy eligibility and they become eligible to receive nearly $18K in premium subsidies, leaving them responsible for $1K in premiums on their Bronze policy.

In option 1 they pay $19K for a Bronze policy.

In option 2 they pay $1K for the same Bronze policy, the feds pick up the other $18K in premiums, the couple sets aside $8K in an HSA to use as they wish, and they keep the remaining $10K for whatever they want.

Most people have no idea how lovely the universal Bronze HSA eligibility change made last year by the OBBBA is for many FIRE'd households. It can be a massive win for people just over the cliff.


Q: What happens if my MAGI estimate is off?

A: ACA premium subsidies are reconciled on your tax return the following year. If you got subsidies you shouldn't have, then you pay them back. If you didn't get subsidies that you should have, then you get them as a tax refund. ACA cost-sharing reductions are not reconciled. What you get when you apply is what you get. There is no refund or recapture on CSRs.


Q: Can anyone have an HSA?

A: No, you need to have an HSA-eligible policy to contribute to an HSA, but all Bronzes and Catastrophic policies are HSA-eligible by default. The 2027 contribution limits for HSAs are $4,500 for a single, $9,000 for a family, and each adult 55 and up can make an additional $1,000 catch-up contribution.

Source: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-26-24.pdf


Q: What is FPL?

A: Federal Poverty Level. It is flat in the lower 48 states and slightly higher in Alaska and Hawaii. The ACA uses prior-year FPL, so 2027 coverage will use 2026 FPL, which can be found here - https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/b1bfa16b20ae9b89d525bc35de7c1643/detailed-guidelines-2026.pdf


Q: Where can I go to see the prices and policies offered in my area next year?

A: 2027 prices will be available on the federal exchange sometime in the final week of October. Anyone will be able to see 2027 prices and plans in their area with some anonymous data (age/zip/income) in about three minutes at https://www.healthcare.gov/see-plans/#/. If you have a local state-run exchange, then you'll be redirected to the appropriate website. 2027 prices on the state exchanges will be available on a rolling basis soon, but they usually come out earlier than the federal exchange.


Q: What happens if I miss open enrollment?

A: Applications after open enrollment ends will only be possible for those that qualify for a Special Enrollment Period. For SEP details see here - https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage-outside-open-enrollment/special-enrollment-period/


Q: How are subsidies calculated?

A: Subsidies are calculated by taking the unsubsidized market premium of the benchmark plan in your county, which is the second lowest cost Silver plan, and subtracting your expected premium contribution (EPC). Any remainder is your subsidy amount. Once your subsidy is calculated you are free to use it on any plan you choose in any metal tier. If you choose a policy with an unsubsidized premium lower than your subsidy amount, which is common for Bronzes and in some states/counties also happens with Golds, then you owe no premium for your policy. Excess unused subsidy value is lost and not refunded to you.


Q: How do I determine my expected premium contribution?

A: EPC is calculated as a percentage of your 2027 MAGI, which you estimate at the time of application. The following is the 2027 EPC table:

Expected Premium Contribution (Coverage Year 2027)

MAGI (% of FPL) 2027 EPC (% of MAGI) 2026 EPC (% of MAGI) Change from 2026
Less than 100% No limit / unsubsidized No limit / unsubsidized N/A
100% to <133% 2.15% 2.10% +2.4%
133% to <150% 3.23% to 4.3% 3.14% to 4.19% +2.9%
150% to <200% 4.3% to 6.78% 4.19% to 6.60% +2.6%
200% to <250% 6.78% to 8.66% 6.60% to 8.44% +2.7%
250% to <300% 8.66% to 10.22% 8.44% to 9.96% +2.6%
300% to 400% 10.22% 9.96% +2.6%
More than 400% No limit / unsubsidized No limit / unsubsidized N/A

Source:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-26-26.pdf

KFF has an excellent calculator (not updated yet for 2027 prices) that will tell you your exact subsidy amount in seconds, find it here - https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/


Q: What are the limits next year on MaxOOP and deductibles? Does it vary by metal tier?

A: MaxOOP has a regulated legal maximum that applies to all ACA and employer-sponsored plans. It is the same for all policies sold in the US with the exception of CSR Silver plans. Deductibles can be as high as MaxOOP, but can not exceed it. The following is the 2027 MaxOOP table:

Out-Of-Pocket Maximum (Coverage Year 2027)

Plan Type MAGI Level 2027 Individual / Family MaxOOP 2026 Individual / Family MaxOOP Change from 2026
All non-CSR Plans All $12,000 / $24,000 $10,600 / $21,200 +13.2%
CSR Silver Plan 73% AV 200% to 250% FPL $9,600 / $19,200 $8,450 / $16,900 +13.6%
CSR Silver Plan 87% AV 150% to 200% FPL $4,000 / $8,000 $3,500 / $7,000 +14.3%
CSR Silver Plan 94% AV Up to 150% FPL $4,000 / $8,000 $3,500 / $7,000 +14.3%
CSR Silver Plan 99% AI/AN AV AI/AN Up to 300% FPL $0 $0 N/A

Source: https://www.cms.gov/files/document/2027-papi-parameters-guidance-2026-01-29.pdf


Q: What is a CSR Silver?

A: There are two ACA subsidy systems, the premium tax credits (PTCs) that offset premium costs and the cost-sharing reductions (CSRs) that offset non-premium costs like deductibles, copays/coinsurance, and MaxOOP. CSRs are only offered to people with MAGI of 250% FPL or less and are most meaningful for those with MAGI of 200% FPL or less. CSRs can be worth more in value than PTCs, but CSRs only offset costs when you actually use your health insurance, so their value depends entirely on actual utilization of healthcare. Note that the table above only shows the maximum allowed MaxOOP for CSR plans, but actual MaxOOP is often significantly lower. For example, there will be CSR Silver 94s next year with MaxOOP well under $2,000. The exact value varies for each individual policy.


Q: What are the metal tiers and how can I get one of those CSR Silvers?

A: The metal tiers are defined by their actuarial value (AV), which broadly speaking means what share of all covered healthcare expenses they should pay for the risk pool. Bronze is 60% AV, Silver is 70% AV, Gold is 80% AV, Platinum is 90% AV.

The CSRs create three hidden tiers of Silvers for those that qualify for them based on MAGI at FPL steps 150%/200%/250%, which are 94% AV (better than Platinum), 87% AV (almost Platinum), and 73% AV (minimal). Anyone over 250% FPL sees the default non-CSR Silver at 70% AV. There is also a fourth hidden Silver tier that is reserved exclusively for officially recognized North American Native Americans.

When you log on to the exchange and enter your MAGI they only show you the Silver tier you are entitled to see and buy. This is why one person can love their Silver policy with a $0 deductible and $1,200 MaxOOP and another person with the seemingly exact same Silver policy can think it is crappy with a $6,000 deductible and a $9,000 MaxOOP. The first person has the 94% AV variant and the second person has the 70% AV variant.


Q: Is there an example of how CSRs impact a policy?

A: My household qualifies for a CSR Silver 94 in 2026. The following are actual coverage costs for our policy with CSRs and without.

Our 2026 Silver plan with cost-sharing reductions:

  • $0/$0 deductible (individual/family)
  • $0 PCP
  • $10 specialist
  • $5 urgent care
  • $0/$15 tier1/tier2 scripts
  • 25% ER coinsurance
  • $2,200/$4,400 MaxOOP (individual/family)

Our 2026 Silver plan without cost-sharing reductions:

  • $6,000/$12,000 deductible (individual/family)
  • $40 PCP
  • $80 specialist
  • $60 urgent care
  • $20/$40 tier1/tier2 scripts
  • 40% ER coinsurance
  • $8,900/$17,800 MaxOOP (individual/family)

Q: If I don't qualify for CSRs, then what policy should I aim for?

A: It will vary by market, but as a general rule Silvers are routinely a poor financial choice for people with MAGI greater than 200% FPL because they are paying the Silver loading surcharge to fund the CSR subsidy system. Households with more than 200% FPL should usually look instead to a Bronze or Gold, though this is not a universal rule.


Q: What the hell is "Silver loading"?

A: There are two subsidy systems in the ACA, the premium tax credits (PTCs) that reduce monthly premiums, and the cost-sharing reductions (CSRs) that reduce/eliminate deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses for people with MAGI under 250% FPL. The federal government eliminated direct funding for the CSR subsidies in 2017, but insurers are still required by law to deliver them to customers and the cost for them is rather large and can often be greater than the PTCs for a given household. The highest tier of CSRs changes a Silver plan into one that can be significantly better than a Platinum plan.

Insurers and states largely responded to this major problem by boosting the premiums on Silver policies since that is the only metal tier in which CSRs are offered. This is what is meant by the term "Silver loading". For example, here in Texas the state has mandated that Silver premiums be priced 40% higher than what they would normally be if CSRs were not a factor. In neighboring New Mexico, they went even higher at 44%. Those premium increases push the average Silver price up dramatically, but this is generally a beneficial thing for everyone because ACA subsidies in all metal tiers are calculated off of the price of the benchmark Silver plan. The higher the benchmark Silver plan is relative to all plans, the greater premium subsidies everyone receives. The vast majority of Silver subscribers are highly to almost totally subsidized and don't care about market premium prices, so the net effect of Silver loading is to increase federal subsidies for all subsidy-eligible ACA enrollees in the state while also providing ample funding for the required CSR subsidy system. In some states like Texas this leads to some market oddities like Gold plans being lower-priced or similar to Silver plans. In some cases the subsidies are high enough that Gold plans can be had for no premium at all.

As a result of this forced boosting in Silver premiums it is generally a financially bad idea for anyone who is not in one of the higher CSR tiers (MAGI under 200% FPL) to take a Silver plan. They could get comparable coverage at a significantly lower price with a Bronze or significantly better coverage at a comparable (or slightly lower) price with a Gold. Taking a Silver with MAGI above 200% FPL generally means you are unnecessarily overpaying for coverage, often by quite a bit.


Random tip for those signing up for the first time in states with expanded Medicaid

If you are going to have lumpy retirement income rather than a consistent monthly withdrawal, then I'd recommend dividing your annual estimate by 12 rather than putting in actual monthly income. Otherwise you might find yourself automatically shunted to Medicaid and having to ping pong between the ACA and Medicaid systems. It's a well-intentioned design choice to catch as many Medicaid-eligible people as possible, but it's an annoying thing for those with incomes such that they are eligible for Medicaid by monthly MAGI and ineligible by annual MAGI.

That's assuming your annual is going to be greater than 138% FPL. If it's lower, then enjoy your expansion Medicaid instead.

Useful resource links:

Official Healthcare.gov price/policy browser (not yet updated for 2027) - https://www.healthcare.gov/see-plans/#/

Great ACA cheatsheet - https://www.healthreformbeyondthebasics.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/REFERENCE_YearlyGuidelines_CY2027-FINAL.pdf

KFF's excellent subsidy calculator - https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

A nice beginner's guide by /u/stevencartwright - https://reddit.com/r/Fire/comments/1vnhwpd/a_fire_beginners_guide_to_aca_health_insurance/

Excellent Open Enrollment Guide by ACASignups.net (Part 1) - https://acasignups.net/26/10/14/hobbling-towards-enrollment-my-2027-aca-open-enrollment-guide-part-1

Excellent Open Enrollment Guide by ACASignups.net (Part 2) - https://acasignups.net/26/10/23/hobbling-towards-enrollment-my-2027-aca-open-enrollment-guide-part-2

Notice on ACASignups.net - Charles is a bit of a rabid anti-Trump partisan, but he does great ACA work. The value of the ACA information is high and merits looking past the political content, in my opinion.


r/Fire • • 5h ago

I can quit in 2 months.

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Posting here because I don't really have anywhere else to talk about it.

We met with our financial advisor today and after a recent inheritance from my mom, our plan was accelerated to have me retire when I turned 55 (which would be the end of 2027). But the way they have mapped it out, they have me projected to have zero income for all of 2027. Like I can quit in TWO months. And earn $0 going forward and we are going to be OK. And my wife and I just left the meeting, came home and sat back down at our desks to keep working. We didn't high-five each other, jump up and down in excitement, nothing. And it's sad as hell to me. THIS is the moment some people never get and it wasn't even a blip in our day.


r/Fire • • 3h ago

Interesting Article About Why You Hold Index Funds

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I listened to a podcast that alluded this study, so I looked it up. "When stated in terms of lifetime dollar wealth creation, the best-performing 4% of listed companies explain the net gain for the entire US stock market since 1926, as other stocks collectively matched Treasury bills." Out of the 30,000+ stocks that have existed in US Markets, 4% made up the entire net gain since 1926. We already knew this, but seeing it put that way is astounding. (If the link doesn't work, it's "Do Stocks Outperform Treasury Bills" by Hendrick Bessimbinder, Sep. 2018).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304405X18301521


r/Fire • • 3h ago

How do you keep structure in your day?

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I quit corporate, started consulting for a client just 10ish hours per week. That’s on pause for right now for a few reasons. In the meantime, I find myself endlessly scrolling and wasting my days away. I can’t find motivation or any ability to stay focused on things I’ve wanted to do around the house - like toy purge, cleaning out closets, swapping over kids clothes by season or size, etc. Sometimes I’ll spend hours every day just doing dumb shit on my phone, then I’ll go for a walk just to move my body, then I waste time in the afternoon and then begin dinner prep. I feel so unstructured and unmotivated.

For those who have fired, what do you do to maintain structure and prevent the endless wasting of time?!


r/Fire • • 10h ago

One More Year (OMY) experiences

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I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about how I may end up perpetually in OMY syndrome. Those close to retirement or fully retired, can you share what you decided and how it has impacted your life?

I’ve built a model where I’m fairly pessimistic and it works out that I can retire in a decade. My floor is basically Japan since 1990 and includes the initial 43% one year crash on the year of my retirement. My ceiling is 9.5% nominal over the next 40-ish years. I seem to survive both models, though obviously with very different lifestyle accommodations.

Somehow still, I’ve decided that maybe just do 15 instead and feel really safe. I really want to avoid dying with $5M with no heirs, but I’m stuck in the accumulation mindset and nothing feels like enough. I’m even planning my projected spend in retirement as 3x what my current spend is for some strange reason. My current savings rate is 44% of my gross and my spend is 30%. I am saving for ChubbyFIRE but I don’t even know if I’ll know how to spend it.

How do you overcome this anxiety and just pull the trigger.


r/Fire • • 4h ago

Opinion Economic Possibilities for our Grandchildren — John Maynard Keynes

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Economic Possibilities for our Grandchildren — John Maynard Keynes (essay, 1930, in Essays in Persuasion)

"Thus for the first time since his creation man will be faced with his real, his permanent problem — how to use his freedom from pressing economic cares, how to occupy the leisure, which science and compound interest will have won for him, to live wisely and agreeably and well."

Dude predicted it quite accurately.


r/Fire • • 12h ago

How much more do we need to save for a couple (no kids) versus as a single person?

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It seems like expenses are lower per person when you’re married or partnered and sharing expenses, so I’m assuming most DINKs can retire comfortably on 1.5 times the retirement amount they’d need if they were single. Of course there are a lot of assumptions and exceptions so this is a generalization.


r/Fire • • 19h ago

Advice Request Anyone here FIREd and went to a language program abroad?

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I am currently 32 and retired since this spring. I am planning to go to a language exchange program to Taiwan this winter. Anyone here did this around my age to a foreign country? How was the age demographics? Will I look creepy and feel out of place due to my age? East Asian, male, single, and genuinely interested in getting to conversational level in Chinese.


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Advice Request Late 40s, $2M NW, burned out and scared to quit

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I’m in my late 40s, single, no kids, living in a VHCOL area. NW is around $2M, income ~$250K, renting with no property ownership.

NW split is about 10% is in cash, 45% in taxable brokerage (mostly VTI), 45% in 401(k) target-date funds. My original FIRE goal was $3M.

I’m pretty burned out after years in corporate. I took a leave last year, which helped a little, but I’m back to feeling overwhelmed. I’ve realized I don’t want more responsibility or to keep climbing the ladder.
I’m seriously considering quitting after my bonus next spring, but I’m scared. Mostly because I know there’s a good chance I’ll never make this kind of money again, especially at my age.

I’m debating whether to look for a less demanding corporate job, ideally remote and at an IC level, or leave corporate altogether and try consulting, part-time work, or Barista FIRE.

Moving to a lower-cost (lower, not low) country in Europe is also an option.

I guess I’m struggling with two things:

- Would you walk away from this kind of income with $2M, or try to stick it out until $3M? To me, $3M is real Fire in Europe whereas $2M is still not completely Fire.

- How would you handle investing if you might quit soon? I’ve been buying VTI but am now hesitant to invest my cash in case I need it.

Would love to hear from anyone who’s been in a similar position.


r/Fire • • 9h ago

General Question For those who are FIRE: what is your yearly spending (excluding rent/mtg if any)?

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Just curious about where are people with their spending.

Also, state where you are in the world.


r/Fire • • 54m ago

Original Content It’s so easy, it’s so hard! What’s been your biggest financial mistake?

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I’ve seen the discussion before. Personal finance is so easy to learn. Actually it isn’t there are a lot of details to know. In my experience, yes, both. Compounding, easy. Optimizing all the things, hard.

We’ve had some big and small mess ups over the years. I’d love to hear what big and small ones others have had, in part to commiserate, in part to learn, and in part to vent. I don’t mean things that are “hindsight is 20/20”. I mean just actual straight mistakes.

Here it is my list of our financial mistakes past:

  1. Renting out a property a few months too long to call it a primary residence when sold. Loss: approx $35k

2.Underpaying taxes across our W2s: Loss: penalty of approx… I forget, but it was rather high, and we have to be so vigilant every year now.

  1. Paying off extra low cost mortgage instead of investing. Loss: About $13k over two years.

  2. Investing in a Roth IRA in a few of our highest tax years. Loss: About $5k

  3. FSA misuse - we thought you were for childcare (like past years), not vision and dental. Loss: Almost $3.6k, was able to minimize to $1k with creative uses.

  4. FSA misses - accidentally not getting childcare FSAs. Loss: approx $2.5k

  5. Rejected expense reports at work due to all sorts of not following the rules to a T. Loss over lifetime to-date: $3k

  6. HSA misfunding - we both maxed out our HSA. Near miss: we caught it early and returned the funds.

I am sure I missed some. With a lot of the financial planning we are playing an optimization game. I personally find it so exhausting, but also addictive and I feel it whenever we don’t get it 100% right.


r/Fire • • 3h ago

anthropic IPO

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i’m a huge broad market index guy and a bit of a wuss to invest in a single stock. however i think anthropic is on a different level as a company. i think their AI models will change the world for better or worse.

my question is how many of you are going to take the gamble and invest in anthropic. deciding whether to take a slight gamble.

35m NW about 470,000k


r/Fire • • 2d ago

General Question Impact of AI on FIRE Interest?

100 Upvotes

With the increased risk of AI taking people's jobs will we see more people trying to save up and FIRE in order to be more prepared for a layoff? Have you increased your contribution rates to have more of a savings runway in case things go south?


r/Fire • • 2d ago

Fired one year ago today. Retired one year ago.

752 Upvotes

Title, today marks the untimely firing of my career and was probably the best thing that happened to me at 35. My wife quit her job 4 weeks later and we have been traveling the world ever since. Since November 24th we have been to:

● Phillipines - Cebu, Taglibiran City, Panglao, Manila, Anvaya Morong, Baguio, Tagaytay City

● Taiwan - Taipei, Taichung, Chiayi, Tainan, Kaohsiung

● Vietnam - Da Nang, Hue, Hoi An, Sa Pa, Ha Giang, Haiphong, Cat Ba, Ha Noi Ninh Binh.

For the remainder of the year we plan on Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Macau, Hong Kong then back to Manila to celebrate Christmas with family. Then after the New Year we booked flights going to Saigon, Phu Quoc, Siem Reap, and Phnom Penh before landing back in Da Nang where we will spend 4-5 months there with our friends and community and continue onward.

We target low cost countries to let our portfolio grow targeting about a sub 2.5% draw. Since leaving the US our portfolio has grown about $140k, down from $50k two weeks ago, while we are on track to draw less than 36k for our first initial year.

In our down time between travel, I spent a lot of time playing pickleball losing a lot of weight, getting healthier. My wife spent her days learning Vietnamese, and we even had plenty of time doing charity work for the local pet shelter. My social circle has increased 10-fold with the pickleball and FIRE communities we started. We eat better and healthier all while living on much less and owning much less. This life might not be for everyone, but it is for us and that is all that matters.


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Sunday, October 25, 2026

9 Upvotes

This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

All of the sub rules apply in this thread as normal with the exception of the off-topic rule, which is relaxed to the extent that people don't go wildly off of the reservation.

We are putting this up as a trial to see if it is worth keeping this as a permanent feature of the sub. Participation is entirely voluntary and anyone who wants to create a separate post of their own rather than posting in here is free to do so.


r/Fire • • 3d ago

General Question Which professions and industries are more into FIRE?

195 Upvotes

Do you think there are some professions (doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, truck drivers, sales, etc.) or industries (tech, health, etc.) that are more into FIRE? e.g., do you think there are more FIRE teachers than FIRE firefighters? Any educated guesses?

On one hand, having a healthy income (like a doctor) would make you prime candidate. At the same time, if you're a doctor then you have a pretty stable job and probably enjoy it, so why FIRE?


r/Fire • • 2d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Saturday, October 24, 2026

7 Upvotes

This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

All of the sub rules apply in this thread as normal with the exception of the off-topic rule, which is relaxed to the extent that people don't go wildly off of the reservation.

We are putting this up as a trial to see if it is worth keeping this as a permanent feature of the sub. Participation is entirely voluntary and anyone who wants to create a separate post of their own rather than posting in here is free to do so.


r/Fire • • 3d ago

Advice Request New Job Opportunity

10 Upvotes

As the title says I have been presented with a new job opportunity.

Currently:

27M

~58,000 Total comp. (underpaid compared to market value)

~$1,000 Monthly Spending (Food, Gas, etc.)

No housing costs (live at home)

Current hours 6:30a - 3:30p (lots of unpaid OT from staying late)

Opportunity:

~86,000 Total comp. ($80,000 base + production bonus and potential weekend compensation)

~2,600 monthly spending (Rent, Food, less gas)

New hours 2:00p - 12:30a

I believe I've laid things out pretty well. I am currently working in the construction industry with pretty good hours but below market rate compensation (comparable is ~70,000 - $80,000) and I have been offered for a role that see my income increase and thus allow me to retire quicker. The issue is that I would be moving out of my mom's house because it feels rude to come home at 2:00a and wake her up every night. The new/current job are in the same city and would be same commute if I don't move. I am currently 50/50 on the decision because while I would be making more money I would have horrible hours for a social life and making friends. Note, I currently do not really go out and do social things more than once a month. My mom is very against but I think part of it is her not wanting her last kid to leave house. This would probably be like a 2-3 year position until something on first shift opened or another role within the company or at another opened up.


r/Fire • • 3d ago

Update: Spoke to a CFP

11 Upvotes

Update: Thank you all for help and suggestions regarding the below post (didn't know how to repost it other than using the link). I realized my work uses CAPTRUST where we can speak with financial advisors, and it is free to employees, so I spoke with a CFP. He said not to worry too much about the taxes, and to focus on paying down the student loans, as it is 5%, and can be a hit to cashflow. Put some in savings for the car, and enjoy the rest.

Thank you to the community for all of the advice, both with this post and outside of this post. I have learned a ton and love learning more everyday.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fire/s/r0xGZ4eaQq


r/Fire • • 2d ago

General Question FIRE or lucrative, fulfilling career?

0 Upvotes

In another post, some folks were arguing that a boring, "meaningless" career (think accountant) can achieve FIRE better/faster than something like a doctor, since the doctor doesn't start earning "big" money until early/mid 30s (after residency) and often has massive medical school debt. This got me thinking, if you were presented with two choices, which would you pick:

  • A boring, "unfulfilling" career like accountant but you could FIRE at say 45-50 from discipline savings and investing and living a "modest" lifestyle
  • A lucrative, high status, "fulfilling" career like a medical doctor, but you would work much longer (say until 65) since you got a later start, have more debt, etc.

I recognize that unfulfilling and fulfilling are subjective, but I'm talking in generalities. A doctor "saves" lives, an accountant doesn't.

Also, I actually disagree that the accountant can FIRE sooner than the doctor (my math says the doctor can easily "catchup") but for discussion I'll accept that since the doctor started later (in terms of savings/investing) they will likely work longer than the accountant who started their FIRE journey at 22 (out of college).


r/Fire • • 3d ago

spending inflation

32 Upvotes

i think CPI inflation is not really enough for my retirement calculation. My spending has increased by a bit more than that historically and even for the past 5 years. Some may think this is “moving the goal posts” or “lifestyle creep” but I don’t think so. For example property taxes on our home have increased at higher than inflation every year. And there are sort of improvements to life that become must haves - everyone now has a smart phone and other things that become necessities even when they cost more than CPI. Also medical insurance and deductible / copay costs rise way faster than CPI. I think real wage growth is a better proxy for what we will need for spending inflation, which is closer to CPI+1% or so. This way you are indexed to what everyone can afford to spend. Of course this makes the retirement requirement for FIRE harder to achieve but then I would rather work a bit longer than slowly slide into an uncomfortable budget constrain over a long (early) retirement.


r/Fire • • 3d ago

Advice Request Get a mortgage or reduce my investments at FIRE?

3 Upvotes

Hi all,

I'm hoping to FIRE within the next few years (assuming the market cooperates), and I'm debating whether I should take out a mortgage on my future home. I'll be relocating to another country, so I'll need to buy a new house.

Option 1: Invest more, carry a mortgage

My original plan was to invest $3 million and use it to generate roughly $10,000 per month in retirement income (simplifying the math using the 4% rule). I would then take out a $600,000 mortgage to buy my home (+ separate down payment not included in my description).

At current rates in that country, a $600,000 mortgage at ~4% over 20 years would cost about $4,000 per month, leaving me with approximately $6,000 per month in disposable income.

Option 2: Pay for the house outright

Alternatively, spending the additional $600,000 on the house would reduce my investment portfolio to $2.4 million, but I'd have no mortgage.

Using the same simplified 4% rule, that $600,000 would only be expected to allow me to withdraw about $2,000 per month in retirement income. From a purely mathematical perspective, it seems better to FIRE with $2.4 million and no mortgage than with $3 million and a $600,000 mortgage, since the mortgage payment exceeds the income generated by that extra capital.

That said, I can also see the argument for keeping the mortgage. The 4% rule is based on a conservative withdrawal rate, while long-term market returns have historically been higher. Keeping the money invested could potentially produce greater returns over time. There's also the inflation factor: the mortgage payment remains fixed, while portfolio withdrawals and portfolio value may grow with inflation and market performance.

On one hand, being mortgage-free gives me higher guaranteed cash flow and eliminates a major fixed mandatory expense. On the other hand, carrying the mortgage lets me keep more money invested and potentially benefit from higher long-term returns.

How would you think about this tradeoff? Which option would you choose, and why?

Thanks!


r/Fire • • 3d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Friday, October 23, 2026

11 Upvotes

This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

All of the sub rules apply in this thread as normal with the exception of the off-topic rule, which is relaxed to the extent that people don't go wildly off of the reservation.

We are putting this up as a trial to see if it is worth keeping this as a permanent feature of the sub. Participation is entirely voluntary and anyone who wants to create a separate post of their own rather than posting in here is free to do so.


r/Fire • • 4d ago

General Question Favorite non-finance book that has helped you FIRE/stay on track?

78 Upvotes

For whatever reason I hate self help and financial advice books. Tried Simple Path to Wealth & The Psychology of Money and couldn't make it through. These books always feel so padded out and repetitive.

Although it is truly unrelated to personal finance, I think The Sun Also Rises by Hemingway has had more of an impact on my FIRE mindset than any other book. It is a book about people who have enough mobility and leisure to do what they want with their lives, and yet they remain wounded, restless, jealous, and unable to turn experience into meaning.

As much as I daydream about not having responsibilities, work obligations, pto requests, etc, I am reminded that freedom from these constraints does not constitute direction. And conversely, constraints do not mean I should postpone building the interests, relationships, skills, and commitments that would make freedom meaningful.

A lot of this goes without saying to most people. I am not the coworker who says "I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I retired". Regardless, I am curious what books have shaped you guys when it comes to this kind of thing.