r/Wildfire • • Apr 25 '21

Should you die on the job

338 Upvotes

Hey guys, have one of those uncomfortable type of questions. It’s been a while since I’ve filled out a beneficiary form and now that I have a kid coming into the world, it’s time to change my death wishes. A google search provided me the recognition of the Beneficiary Form for unpaid benefits (SF 1152), in which you designate a percentage of your unpaid benefits to your loved ones/“beneficiaries”. Now here’s my questions:

1) How much will a beneficiary actually receive if allotted say 100% of my unpaid benefits? What and how much $ are my unpaid benefits?

2) I remember at some point, writing down a description of how I would like my funeral procession to proceed, and filling that out along with the aforementioned form, but I can’t find that one. Anybody recollect the name of that form or have a form # they can provide me?

Thanks everybody


r/Wildfire • • Apr 27 '22

**How to Get a Job as a Wildland Firefighter*

469 Upvotes

How to apply for a Fed Job (USFS, BLM, BIA, FWS) - Revised 07/29/2023

  • Apply to jobs in Sept.-Feb. on https://www.usajobs.gov . Search for things such as “forestry aid, fire, and 0462.”
    • Use filters in the sidebar, set grade to "GS3 and GS4". Under the "more filters" tab you can toggle "Seasonal, Summer, Temporary, and Full Time"
    • Be sure to read each job description to make sure it is for fire. There are other jobs that fall under "Forestry Aide/ Tech." that do not involve wildland fire.
    • Applications for Federal Jobs are only accepted during a narrow (2 week long) window nowadays. You can find out when this window is by calling prospective employers or checking USAJobs weekly.
  • Build a profile on USAjobs and create a resume. Kind of a pain in the ass, but it's just a hurdle to screen out the unmotivated. Just sit down and do it.
    • In your resume, be sure to include hours worked and contact info for references along with permission to contact said references.
  • Call around to various districts/forests/parks you're interested in working for. Do this between early October and February. The earlier in that time period, the better.
    • Hiring officials keep track of who called, when, and how good they sounded. Just call the front desk and ask for whoever does the hiring for "fire."
    • Have a few lines rehearsed about why you want the job and why you're worth hiring. Leave a voicemail if the person is out of the office. Ask questions about what firefighting resources they have (handcrew, engine, lookouts, helicopter, etc, basically what job they can even offer you), when to apply, how to apply, IF they are even hiring...
  • You can leave a message and Fire Managers will usually call you back. Applying online is basically only a formality. Talking to or physically visiting potential employers is the only way to go. People drive out from NY and Maine to talk to crew bosses out West all the time and are usually rewarded with a job for doing so.
  • Have a resume ready to email or hand-in, and offer to do so.
  • It helps to keep a spreadsheet or some notes of all the places you've called, who you talked to, what firefighting resources they have, the deadline for hiring, and generally how the convo went.
  • Apply to 15+ positions. It's hard to get your foot in the door, but totally do-able.
  • If they sound excited and interested in YOU, then you'll probably get an offer if all your paperwork goes through.
  • Unlike the many lines of work, Wildland Firefighting resumes can be 10+ pages long. The longer and more detailed the better. List the sports you've played, whether you hunt or workout, and go into detail about your middle school lawn mowing business - seriously. You are applying to a manual labor job, emphasizing relevant experience.
  • Also have a short resume for emailing. Don't email your ungodly long USAjobs resume.
  • You wont get an offer if you haven't talked to anyone.
    • If you do get an offer from someone you haven't talked to, its usually a red-flag (hard to fill location for a reason). Ex. Winnemucca, NV
  • Start working out. Expect high school sports levels of group working out starting the 1st day of work (running a few miles, push ups, pull ups, crunches, etc).
  • The pack test, the 3miles w/ 45lbs in 45 mins, is a joke. Don't worry about that, only horrifically out of shape people fail it.

- Alternatives to Fed Jobs - Revised 07/29/2023

  • There are also contractors, such as Greyback and Pat-Rick, mostly based in Oregon, with secondary bases around the west. Not as good of a deal, because it's usually on-call work, the pay is lower, and it's a tougher crowd, but a perfectly fine entry-level position. If you can hack it with them, you can do the job just fine.
  • Also look into various state dept. of natural resources/forestry. Anywhere there are wildfires, the state and counties have firefighter jobs, not as many as the Feds, but definitely some jobs. I just don't know much about those.
  • You could also just go to jail in California and get on a convict crew...
  • I wouldn't bother applying to easy-to-Google programs (e.g. Great Northern or North Star crews in MT and AK respectively), as the competition for the 1/2 dozen entry-level jobs is way too intense. A remote district in a po-dunk town is your best bet for getting your foot in the door if you're applying remotely. I started in such a place in the desert of southern Idaho and then moved onto a much nicer setting, up in Montana.
  • Also look into the Nature Conservancy, they have fire crews, as do the California/Montana/Arizona/Minnesota Conservation Corps, and the various USDL Job Corps programs that are run by the Forest Service.

- QUALIFICATIONS NEEDED

Surprisingly few.

  • 18+ years old
  • GED or high school grad
  • relatively clean criminal record (you can have a felony/DUI, etc).
  • A driver's license is required by the Feds, even if you have a DUI, you still need a valid DL
  • A pre-work drug screening is a possibility. The Department of Interior (Park Service & BLM) always drug tests. The Forest Service usually doesn't, but certainly can. Wildland Firefighters are a conservative bunch and open drug use is generally not tolerated. It's a good idea to be able to piss clean and not talk about past drug use.
  • A degree helps, but is by no means necessary.
  • You do have to have some sort of desirable skill or quality though. I mean, if you're just uneducated, unskilled, and out of shape, it's not gonna work out for you even if you do get hired. An EMT certification, even w/o experience, is probably the best "sure bet" for getting a job as a wildland firefighter, but landscaping/manual labor experience, military time, some education, even just being in really good shape and/or having a lot of sports team experience are all good enough

- FAQs

For federal jobs**, if you haven't applied by the end of February, you are probably too late, sometimes there are late postings, but your chances greatly decrease at finding a job.**

  • Hotshot crews and smokejumping are not for rookies. Don't waste their time or your breath by calling
  • .You CAN apply if you have ZERO EXPERIENCE and still have a decent chance at getting a job
  • You DO NOT need EMT, while it is somewhat beneficial, it is by no means needed to get your first fire job
  • Calfire does not hire people with zero experience and zero qualifications.

/TLDR

  • Apply to jobs in Sept-Feb on https://www.usajobs.gov . Search for things such as “forestry aid, fire, and 0462.”
  • Make long resume
  • Apply to multiple locations
  • Call the locations
  • Get in better shape

Thanks to u/RogerfuRabit for the previous post on how to get a job in WF.


r/Wildfire • • 1h ago

Rally for Hakiym Sha'ir in Salem, OR 11/07/26

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r/Wildfire • • 1h ago

Resume Questions, of course

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Handful of questions; how is everyone showing their months employed when they were a seasonal (whether its a 1039 or a 13/13 and so on and so on?)? Especially when those seasons are at the same place and nothing has changed. Are people using the resume builder on USAJobs?


r/Wildfire • • 14h ago

Impending Crashout

25 Upvotes

Idk why it irks me so much getting interest check emails that are sent out to all of the applicants and then multiple of those applicants just drooling over the keyboard and fat fingering REPLY ALL. I get it none of us are the smartest people out there but jfc, I don’t want to get your reply emails with your terrible grammar. Do better.


r/Wildfire • • 9h ago

In lieu of Halloween

5 Upvotes

The season's over. We're all probably pile burning, counting the minutes until we're laid off, or smoking, drinking, jerking, and playing video games. I'm tired of having the same small talk with the same co workers that I have been for the last 8 months. In lieu of Halloween, I want to hear some more recent and more stories about things paranormal, supernatural, extraterrestrial than what's been posted in the past. I know more of you freaks have stories to tell. Also open to scary sounds heard from nearby tents or haunts left behind in porta potties....


r/Wildfire • • 20h ago

Why are they so slow!!

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r/Wildfire • • 18h ago

HR and resumés

7 Upvotes

Somehow with the same resume I am:

-eligible for a promotion
-ineligible for a lateral
-eligible for a demotion

My question is if I accepted a demotion wouldn’t I still be lateraled over because of pay protection-despite not being referred to the hiring manager for the lateral?


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Discussion Why don’t we get disability?

53 Upvotes

It is widely known that the military branches get disability. Many deserve it and many game the system to get a 100% rating.

But let’s be real this job is more physical than most military branches. We also work for the federal gov. They have unlimited money. The US is the richest country in the world by far. So many guys have absolutely wrecked knees and backs. Why are we not getting disability ratings? Does anyone even care?

These guys that get slammed by trees shouldn’t need to open a go fund me. They should get a 100% rating like many desk jockeys get in the military. Being on a shot crew is harder than the vast majority of jobs in the military. It’s gross how we’re treated


r/Wildfire • • 14h ago

Interest checks for r5

1 Upvotes

When will interest checks start going out and in the mean time what can I do to be the most hirable candidate for a perm


r/Wildfire • • 6h ago

News (General) Define 2020 in a single pic. Twitter@Noahberger3884

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r/Wildfire • • 22h ago

WFAP

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I just got the referral email and they emailed me today to update my references information.

Should I do a follow-up call to introduce myself or is that too straightforward and I should just wait? Is there anything I need to know before I even get an interview?


r/Wildfire • • 19h ago

Boots

1 Upvotes

Has anyone worn the new Georgia forestry logger? Can someone do a review on them? I’m sort of tempted to try them and I’m wondering how they are.


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Best way to find numbers to call

1 Upvotes

I was recently referred to just about every duty location available over the weekend and am trying to find numbers to make interest calls and get my name out there, but when trying to find numbers I’ll sometimes find 3 or 4 of them supposedly for the same location, or I won’t be able to find any number at all.

As well as when I do call I’ve been told by a ranger district that I’m supposed to wait to be called instead, but just about everywhere says to call around so that’s a bit confusing.

If anybody has any good tips for finding numbers to call it would be appreciated, and what my next step should be. Thanks


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

What is the work flow like in the Tonto & Coconino National Forest like?

8 Upvotes

I made a previous post on what engine life is like in AZ but wanted to narrow it down to these two specific forests if anyone has any insight or knowledge i’d really appreciate it! Also recommendations on duty stations would also be very helpful!


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Image Pike IHC 99’ - Watercolor from photo

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105 Upvotes

Such good people. Miss them all and hope they are well.


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Best NM areas to work at

2 Upvotes

Hell yall,

Just wonder8ng what would be the best areas to possibly work at in New Mexico?


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Question What’s better bivy or tent?

6 Upvotes

anyone have any personal experiences with them and like one better than the other, and which brand and model is the best for both of them?


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

What’s Engine life like in AZ?

5 Upvotes

I’m applying out to arizona and haven’t been on an engine or worked out there before and was curious how it is out there? I know engines work differently in different places and would appreciate hearing how they are there. Thanks!


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Im going nuts

83 Upvotes

I’m gonna lose my marbles if I see another post from a high school graduate asking how to get into this job PLEASE JUST READ THE SUBREDDIT I PROMISE YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

He just like u-...oh for fucks sake

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0 Upvotes

nepobaby


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

BC Wildland Firefighters, what are your thoughts on the projected Conservative majority in the upcoming election?

0 Upvotes

What are some possible policy changes that might come into effect that will affect the organization in the upcoming years?

We've already experienced budget cuts under the NDP. Will this become exacerbated under the Tories? Does anyone predict similar structural changes that Alberta experienced under Smith?

Interested in people's opinions on the matter.


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

International guidance

2 Upvotes

Hi
I’m a structural firefighter from the uk with 5 years of experience. I’m looking to be get involved with the wildfire crews in BC or anywhere really for seasonal work.
I’m wondering if anyone has advice or could tell me their experience if they are an international applicant or any information at all.
Navigating the steps is seemingly difficult as It seems crews won’t hire without a confirmed visa but I’m struggling to get a confirmed visa without a work permit or job offer, which I also need to gain relevant qualifications such as the S-100 and the others. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers lads


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Maintaining Faller 2

4 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

My Faller 2 expires early next year and I am wondering how I maintain it? I work for a municipal agency, they do not have the best IQS management. Can I just show on an IQS incident experience record update form I worked as a faller 2 on project work?
Thanks


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Handy dandy

5 Upvotes

How TF do we create templates for handy dandy’s now that publisher is offline?