r/shield • u/2th Shotgun Axe • Jun 18 '20
Live Discussion Live Episode Discussion: S7E04 - "Out of the Past"
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| EPISODE | DIRECTED BY | WRITTEN BY | ORIGINAL AIRDATE |
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| S7E04 - "Out of the Past" | Garry A. Brown | Mark Leitner | Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10/9c on ABC |
Episode Synopsis: It was just another average morning on July 22, 1955, when Agent Phil Coulson realized the importance of that day in the S.H.I.E.L.D. history books. With a chip on his shoulder and a genre-bending glitch in his system, he'd set into motion a chain of events that would hopefully preserve the timeline as we know it and ensure those pesky chronicoms get the ending they deserve. What could go wrong?
Garry A. Brown is mostly known for his role as a producer on Agents of Shield, and Prison Break, for which he also directed two episodes.
He has directed nine episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:
- Melinda
- A Wanted (Inhu)man
- Many Heads, One Tale
- The Singularity
- Broken Promises
- Identity and Change
- Best Laid Plans
- The Honeymoon
- Leap
Mark Leitner was a script coordinator for Spartacus: War of the Damned and Gods of the Arena. He has been part of the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. production staff since 2013. He has also written one episode of Spartacus and the episodes "Deal Breaker" and "Justicia" for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Slingshot.
He has written two episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:
- Inside Voices
- Toldja
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u/flintlock0 Deathlok Jun 18 '20
The monologuing being a malfunction in Coulson’s system is hilarious.
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u/BoredBurrito Koenig Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
Lol Sousa dramatic pause "I think SHIELD has been infiltrated by Hydra"
Everyone else: "Yeeeep"
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u/mwthecool Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20
Is May taking emotion from people she touches?
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u/mwthecool Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20
I can't believe they left Enoch again. There's no way that choice goes well for them.
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u/TigerUSF Jun 18 '20
"You may proceed with your saga of struggle" hahaha god I love Enoch
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u/notyourcinderella Jun 18 '20
"Come with me, if you want to continue to exist."
Yay Enoch!
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u/CTeam19 Lanyard Jun 18 '20
Loving Peggy Carter and being tossed into the future. Name a more iconic duo.
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u/LiveFromNewYork95 Jun 18 '20
"We can't change history"
One member of the team each week: "What if, and stay with me, we tried to change history?"
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u/TigerUSF Jun 18 '20
I'm so sad this season is short. They are absolutely killing it.
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u/flintlock0 Deathlok Jun 18 '20
May being affected by others’ emotions and Coulson being a robot makes them perfect for each other.
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u/BornAshes Lemon Jun 18 '20
"It always gets better just never fast enough"
"And some things never change"
"We're the agents of status quo"
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u/raze464 Captain America Jun 18 '20
Please tell me this mean Sousa is the cop from the Avengers.
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u/Jedi-El1823 Shotgun Axe Jun 18 '20
Good of you to notice, Deke.
It's like the moment in Legends of Tomorrow when they were stuck in fifties, and Stein was going on about how great the time was, and Sara and Jefferson say it is a great time, if you're white, straight, and a male.
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u/nezumipi Sandwich Jun 18 '20
Be still my heart!
This is the same comment I made last week: They wrote all of this a year ago. They didn't know what things would be like when it was released. But they chose to have that conversation between Deke and Yo-yo.
Hot damn.
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u/BornAshes Lemon Jun 18 '20
So now BOTH SHIELD and the Chronicoms are saying "Fuck it" to the timeline but it's all a Bootstrap Paradox anyways!
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u/chriz1300 Jun 18 '20
I expected to really dislike the black and white, but the way it’s being executed alongside Coulson’s narration is phenomenal, so far I’m liking this episode most out of the season.
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u/bidet2yousir Deke Jun 18 '20
Sousa just got S1 Coulson’d. Must be good for Coulson to deliver that news and not be receiving it for once
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u/KeyLime044 Jun 18 '20
General Rick Stoner (the dude in the lighthouse holographic recorded message back in Season 5) in the flesh!!
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u/CowGoesMoOoOo_ Jun 18 '20
I AM SO TRIGGERED WHERE IS FITZZZ. And where’s flint? But it’s literally Bc Iain was shooting a movie during the time that this was filming (same w season 5) that he’s not here
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Jun 18 '20
Enoch: "My friends!"
Coulson: "Fuck you, help me already."
Enoch: "One of these days... I'mma beat the piss out of them."
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u/LCPhotowerx Lola Jun 18 '20
enoch is gonna lose his shit and im not gonna feel sorry for anyone who gets hit by him
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u/mtm4440 Jun 18 '20
Well, Willfred knows something is up because Deke hasn't aged a day in 20 years.
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u/OliviaElevenDunham Coulson Jun 18 '20
Way to break the news, Coulson. That explains why Peggy didn't end up with Sousa.
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u/nezumipi Sandwich Jun 18 '20
Coulson: Welcome to the SHIELD post-mortality club
Sousa: I am too suave for this shit.
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u/OctoberBoost Jun 18 '20
In a season involving time travel, no one has time for Enoch.
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u/Im_a_new_guy Jun 18 '20
I actually thought robot Coulson would fan boy on the vibranium block in the case. Missed opportunity
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u/cjn13 Fitz Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
well the last time an AoS episode was centered on a train (T.R.A.C.K.S.), Daisy (then Skye) ended up shot and barely clinging to life and then injected with a literal alien substance.
Wonder what shit will go down this time.
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Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
The background saxophone and the narrations in the beginning are exceptional
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Jun 18 '20
Deke getting a crash course in biases of America. Learning why maybe living on a rock controlled by aliens was the best thing to happen to humanity.
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u/mwthecool Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20
I can't believe that I was right about May's emotion!
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u/Jedi-El1823 Shotgun Axe Jun 18 '20
They gonna drop him off in New York so he can be a cop when a very important battle happens?
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u/ARflash Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
I want to see sousa's reaction of knowing about Steve rogers waking up in future.
thinking about it. This scene still works if they add it somehow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUFE_Kx6X2c
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Jun 19 '20
Does anyone else think that they will eventually land in 2012 and will either be interacting with the events of The Avengers or will be there right before it?
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u/samsergiochew Davis Jun 18 '20
The soundtrack to this episode (especially the hotel drop-off scene) IS AWESOME
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u/centcom08 SHIELD Jun 18 '20
I recently watched the episode and I think this episode explains the time travel deal Avengers: Endgame introduced.
I am talking about the conversation between Agent Daniel Souza and Phil Coulson about him being pulled out from that timeline.
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u/BornAshes Lemon Jun 18 '20
HA he just cuts Enoch off who is like "yeah I totally spent time building a 21st century radio to call...oh..okay sure...transferring you now" lol
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u/JulyFortify Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
Coulson and Sousa being on a train reminds me of the “Tracks” episode from season 1
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Jun 18 '20
"Sometimes the hero has to die and there's nothing you can do about it."
You bastard. You better save Souza.
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u/notyourcinderella Jun 18 '20
Creepiest thing of this episode so far: May smiling.
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u/BornAshes Lemon Jun 18 '20
Back in color "internal monologue is gone everything is back to normal...whatever that is..."
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u/ehardy2013 Daisy Jun 18 '20
As soon as they took Deke... all I could think was “They’ll bring him back when they get sick of him”
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u/Slackware1180 Jun 18 '20
So is that thing in the suitcase a piece of vibranium maybe? I know Captain America's shield was made of it but maybe they didn't realize what else it could do until after that.
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u/GyroGOGOZeppeli SHIELD Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
Loooool he was actually noiring it up. Thats amazing, I was thinking what if they made the black and whire an injoke
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u/Heidi423 Simmons Jun 18 '20
haha this was a very fun episode! Maybe they will actually link him to the same police officer from Avengers lol
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u/Hurricane12112 Fury Jun 18 '20
Calling it now May had parts of Fitz brain in her
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u/pretty-in-pink Simmons Jun 18 '20
This season is making getting emotionally invested in Agent Carter worth it
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u/pretty-in-pink Simmons Jun 18 '20
You know what else is nice , that actor probably never imagined a cameo as a favorite to Joss Whedon would lead to this
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u/DamePeinte Jun 18 '20
YES NOW ENOCH IS GOING TO HAVE TO STOP THE CHRONICOM + HYDRA BY HIMSELF - I WANT THE ENOCH-CENTERED EPISODE
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u/Heidi423 Simmons Jun 18 '20
I'm guessing either May really likes studying old Shield history, or that was a rather odd reaction with something else going on...
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u/mtm4440 Jun 18 '20
I just want to see Sousa in a different decade of clothes. He's going to be weird with 70s clothes.
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u/ixanol Fitz Jun 18 '20
Calling it now, Coulson replaces himself somehow in 2012 to talk to someone there
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u/midasgoldentouch Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20
Daisy was probably like "I've been waiting to punch someone since we got to this year"
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u/Haleypkr Raina Jun 18 '20
Lol now we have a BttF situation, let’s see if Malik recognizes Deke
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u/WhoCares1313 The Doctor Jun 18 '20
They're building the friend thing up way too much. I bet(well, more like hope) we see Fitz meet Enoch at the end of the episode
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u/outerspace_castaway Skye Jun 18 '20
annoyed sousa isnt living in the same era as peggy anymore but at least he's still alive
also how many episodes are there going to be without fitz? this is the final season and we only have about 9 episodes left.
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u/StarfishSpencer Jun 18 '20
Man screw history, just bring Sousa with you. Problem solved. It’s the same as if he died, aside from the legend/legacy he left behind I suppose.
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u/DarthQuisitorius Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
Was that Rick Stoner in the preview?! Also godDAMN, Chronicom and HYDRA team up!
Lastly, you guys were right! Sousa's with the team now WHOOOOOOO
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u/KonoPez Jun 18 '20
Enoch is making me so sad :((( Hope he meets back up with the gang soon.
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u/QuizzicalBrow Sandwich Jun 18 '20
Please let the stinger at the end be Enoch getting a call from Fitz
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u/snowhawk04 Toolbox Jun 18 '20
Time to change the subreddit header image to a picture of Enoch and 5 question marks...
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u/midasgoldentouch Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20
Ooh, this is where Fury gets the idea for Tahiti from!
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u/Heinrich0800 Jun 18 '20
Anybody know where tf flint is? I know he is in a series called Mr. Iglesias but why the hell is he not there? His powers would be a great help for them.
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u/Tongchokgoh Jun 20 '20
I don’t understand what Deke meant when he mentioned he didn’t like the status quo in the last scene on the Jet. And why did he look like was he recovering from being knocked out?
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u/SutterCane Obelisk Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
Enoch gonna be touched. The SHIELD guys remembered him.
Edit: That shirt is great. He better wear it for too long.
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u/x_stei Shotgun Axe Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
When Enoch came onto the frame, I totally raised my hands up like a West Cowboy's cheerleader at a pep rally.
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u/JohnnyHotshot Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20
Anyone got a guess as to what this pivotal device is?
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u/Hurricane12112 Fury Jun 18 '20
I think May is gonna be the focal point of the second half of the season
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u/The_AtomBomb Deathlok Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
Five bucks says Coulson is the one we saw pointing the gun in the beginning.
Edit: Well, how about that.
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u/TheTractor20 Davis Jun 18 '20
Enoch is so sad. I feel bad for him. Give Enoch the love and attention he deserves
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u/not-a-frittata Jun 18 '20 edited Jun 18 '20
I can see it now them making a deal then just getting fake brief case
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u/mwthecool Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20
Are we thinking the Enoch thing is just a joke? Or is it leading to him being pissed off and doing something about it?
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u/midasgoldentouch Clairvoyant Jun 18 '20
I thought that was Dottie Underwood for a second
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u/Csantana Ghost Rider Jun 18 '20
you'd think the quinjet would blow Sousa's mind him working in intelligence and all that.
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u/YankeesFan4692 Jun 18 '20
Why doesn’t Freddie have a New York accent lol he sound so different
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u/2th Shotgun Axe Jun 18 '20
That color fading in as May comes into view. Even as an LMD he wants that May booty.